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EUNUCHS

HOMOSEXUALS

GAYS AND JESUS

This letter is in no way meant to condone or condemn
anything. I am simply trying to clarify the Biblical issue
of Jesus and homosexuals.

LET'S FOCUS ON JESUS ONLY

I realize that other writers in the Bible take a different
approach to homosexuality.

I am only concentrating here
on what Jesus is quoted as saying about the subject.

DOES THE GAY LIFE STYLE OFFEND YOU ?

If you are offended by gays and their life style, that is your business and you
have every right to express yourself as you desire within the law.

THE CHRISTIAN  POINT OF VIEW

My concern however is with the comments I see from Christians.

They stand on the Bible and declare that the gay life style is sin etc. etc.

JESUS ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE

APPROACHED THE GAY SITUATION AS NORMAL AND NATURAL

Well the truth is, if you are a follower of Jesus Christ, you will have to change your opinion
on the subject , because Jesus obviously had no problem with gays.

WHAT IS A EUNUCH ?

To understand this, you must first consider the nature of the word Eunuch.

A Eunuch to most people is a castrated male.

Eunuchs were very important
in Biblical times and in fact, many Eunuchs rose to great stature in ancient
social structures.

THERE WERE THREE KINDS OF EUNUCHS

DURING BIBLICAL TIMES
 

But here is the point that one must understand. 

There were three kinds of Eunuchs described in ancient writings.

There was the natural Eunuch, and the mutilated Eunuch, and the religious Eunuch

A NATURAL EUNUCH AND A MUTILATED EUNUCH

AND A RELIGIOUS EUNUCH

The religious Eunuch abstained from sex to live in a monastery.

The mutilated Eunuch was castrated to work in a harem.

But who was the natural Eunuch?

ROMAN LAW DEALING WITH EUNUCHS

In ancient Roman Law it is laid out by the Roman jurist Ulpian in a document known as Lex Julia et Papia, Book 1 (Digest 50.16.128), that "Eunuch is a general designation: the term includes those who are eunuchs by nature, as well as  those who are  mutilated. In stature he places the natural eunuchs first. "

UNDER LAW, TWO EUNUCH CONDITIONS WERE COVERED.

MUTILATED AND NATURAL.

THE NATURAL EUNUCH IS PLACED AHEAD OF THE MUTILATED

The mutilated Eunuch was designated as one diseased and the natural Eunuch was designated as one not diseased.
 

The law (D 28.2.6) says that someone who cannot easily procreate is nonetheless entitled to institute a posthumous heir, but it gives no concrete examples of such a man.

In the same context, it states that the "eunuch" holds this right as well, while "castrated men" expressly do not.

THE LAW SEPARATED THE EUNUCH (TODAY WE CALL GAY)

FROM CASTRATED MEN

 Ulpian makes a distinction between the non castrated Eunuch and the castrated Eunuch.
 

Whole eunuchs who were freemen, unlike mutilated eunuchs, were eligible for marriage and for adopting children (D 23.3.39.1, 28.2.6). In fact, anatomically whole eunuchs had all the rights and duties of ordinary men.

UNDER ROMAN LAW

THE GAYS OF THAT TIME WERE ALLOWED TO MARRY AND ADOPT CHILDREN
 

NATURAL EUNUCHS ARE THOSE WE REFER TO TODAY AS GAYS

The point of all this is that ancient law differentiated between natural Eunuchs,  and mutilated Eunuchs.

 Natural Eunuchs were homosexual men of that time, and had all rights and duties of ordinary men.
 

COMMENTS ON THE ANCIENT GAY LIFE STYLE

FROM LEADERS OF THAT PERIOD

 CLEMENT OF ALEXANDRIA

Clement of Alexandria warned Christians against the evils of eunuch servants being placed in charge of women, because they will act as pimps for the women, and moreover, "the true eunuch is not unable, but [merely?] unwilling to have sex." In other words, the women might get the eunuchs to sleep with them.

WHAT IS IMPORTANT IN THIS STATEMENT IS THAT CLEMENT DEFINES THE TRUE EUNUCH

AS ONE WHO IS ABLE TO HAVE SEX (WITH WOMEN), BUT UNWILLING

THAT IS THE HOMOSEXUAL OF THIS DAY
 

THE WORDS OF JOSEPHUS

Josephus, in Jewish Antiquities IV 8,40, indicated that in the case of some, since "it is evident that their soul has become effeminate, they have transfused that effeminacy to their body also."
 

THIS STATEMENT OF JOSEPHUS TAKES THE POSITION THAT THE INDIVIDUAL IS

FEMININE WITHIN THEMSELVES, AND THAT IS DEMONSTRATED OUTWARDLY

THE MOST FAMOUS JEWISH HISTORIAN PLINY THE ELDER

Pliny the Elder assigned eunuchs and hermaphrodites to the "third gender called half-male,"

THE WORD HERMAPHRODITES REFERS TO ONE WHO HAS BOTH MALE AND FEMALE

CHARACTERISTICS.

PLINY REFERRED TO EUNUCHS AND HERMAPHRODITES AS HALF MALE

THE QUR'AN

Although the Qur'an never uses the word khasy, it recognizes that not all persons are male or female and  that there are some people who are aqim, or "ineffectual,"109  and some men who "lack the primary skills of males

THE QUR'AN DESCRIBES THIS TYPE OF PERSON AS INEFFECTUAL AND LACKING PRIMARY

SKILLS OF MALES WHICH WOULD BE INTERCOURSE WITH FEMALES
 

SUETONIUS ABOUT THE EMPEROR TITUS

Suetonius said of the emperor Titus that "he was suspected of excess; and likewise of lust because of his crowds of catamites, and eunuchs."91 Apuleius,  tells of a band of "half-men" [semiviri], 1 who call each other "girls" [puellae] and have sex with young men, both as active and as passive partners.2 

They also act as cultic priests of the Mother Goddess, a traditional role for eunuchs.3

  CATAMITES WERE BOYS WHO HAD SEXUAL ENCOUNTERS WITH MEN

YOU WILL NOTE THEY ARE DIFFERENTIATED FROM EUNUCHS.

BUT HERE SUETONIUS BRINGS UP THE TERM HALF MEN WHO CALL EACH OTHER GIRLS AND

HAVE SEX WITH YOUNG MEN.

WHAT DOES JESUS SAY ABOUT EUNUCHS?

Now what does Jesus say about  Eunuchs, keeping in mind that the natural Eunuchs were the gays or homosexuals of the time.

JESUS REFERS TO THE THREE KINDS WE HAVE COVERED ABOVE

RELIGIOUS WHO GIVE UP SEX FOR RELIGION

MUTILATED WHO ARE CASTRATED FOR HAREMS

NATURAL WHO ARE THE ONES WE TODAY REFER TO AS GAY
 

KJV Matthew 19:12
12.  For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

Here Jesus first refers to the Natural Eunuch that today we call Homosexual or Gay

Next he refers to Eunuchs made so by men. These were castrated males who were to serve in harems.

Finally he refers to Eunuchs who give up sex for religion, saying they made themselves that way

for the kingdom of heaven.

NOTE ABOVE: JESUS KNEW THIS WOULD SHOCK PEOPLE AS IT DOES CHRISTIANS

HE KNEW SOME PEOPLE WOULD NOT ACCEPT IT AS CHRISTIANS DO TODAY

SO HE SAID

HE THAT IS ABLE TO RECEIVE IT, LET HIM RECEIVE IT.

IN OTHER WORDS

YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT, BUT THAT'S THE WAY IT IS
 

None of the eunuchs mentioned in the Hebrew scriptures or in any other ancient text prior to Jesus are ever called "born eunuchs," because until about the sixth century BCE nearly all people who were called eunuchs were born that way.

SO NOW YOU CAN CHOOSE WHOM TO ACCEPT.

THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH OR JESUS.

THERE IS OBVIOUSLY A BIG DIFFERENCE

So you can be anti Gay if you wish.

That is your right.

However, you cannot be anti gay and claim to be a follower of
Jesus Christ.

 As you can see. He did not feel that way. 

So take your choice, you are a follower of Jesus or you're not.

IF YOU ARE AGAINST GAYS

THEN YOU ARE AT ODDS WITH JESUS CHRIST

BASED ON THE SCRIPTURE WE HAVE STUDIED

AND THE CONDITIONS AT THAT TIME

You certainly have a right to disapprove of the Gay life style.

That is your right.

But when you approach it from a Christian standpoint you are on shaky ground.

CHRISTIANS SAY THAT GAYS CHOOSE THAT LIFESTYLE

JESUS DISAGREES AND SAYS THEY ARE BORN THAT WAY
 

If Jesus says that some are born that way from their mothers womb, and you say that those within the womb are creations of God, that means that those whom you may not approve of are creations of God. 

SO IF YOU BELIEVE THAT GOD CREATES FROM THE WOMB AS CHRISTIANS DO

THEN YOU MUST FACE THE FACT THAT FOR WHATEVER REASON

GOD CHOSE TO CREATE GAYS FROM THE WOMB

On top of all of this, the man who was selected to translate the Bible into English,

King James 1, was gay.
 

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