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EUNUCHS

HOMOSEXUALS

GAYS AND JESUS


This letter is in no way meant to condone or condemn
anything. I am simply trying to clarify the Biblical issue
of Jesus and homosexuals.

I realize that other writers in the Bible take a different
approach to homosexuality.

CAN WE CONCENTRATE ONLY ON THE JESUS

COMMENTS REGARDING HOMOSEXUALITY?

I am only concentrating here
on what Jesus is quoted as saying about the subject.



DOES THE GAY LIFE STYLE OFFEND YOU ?


If you are offended by gays and their life style, that is your business and you
have every right to express yourself as you desire within the law.




THE CHRISTIAN  POINT OF VIEW  


My concern however is with the comments I see from Christians.

They stand on the Bible and declare that the gay life style is sin etc. etc.

THE BIBLE SUGGESTS THAT JESUS HAD NO PROBLEMS WITH GAYS

Well the truth is, if you are a follower of Jesus Christ, you will have to change your opinion
on the subject , because Jesus obviously had no problem with gays.




WHAT IS A EUNUCH ?


To understand this, you must first consider the nature of the word Eunuch.


A Eunuch to most people is a castrated male.

Eunuchs were very important in Biblical times and in fact, many Eunuchs rose to great stature in ancient
social structures.




THERE WERE TWO KINDS OF EUNUCHS
 

But here is the point that one must understand. 

There were two kinds
of Eunuchs described in ancient writings.

There was the natural Eunuch and the mutilated Eunuch.

KEEP THAT IN MIND

THERE WAS THE NATURAL EUNUCH

AND THE MUTILATED OR DISEASED EUNUCH

 




A NATURAL EUNUCH AND A MUTILATED EUNUCH

THE EUNUCH AND ROMAN LAW

In ancient Roman Law it is laid out by the Roman jurist Ulpian in a document known as Lex Julia et Papia, Book 1 (Digest 50.16.128), that "Eunuch is a general designation: the term includes those who are eunuchs by nature, as well as  those who are  mutilated.

NOTE THE LAW AGAIN AS GIVEN ABOVE

EUNUCHS BY NATURE AND MUTILATED

In stature he places the natural eunuchs first. "

UNDER ROMAN LAW THE NATURAL EUNUCH

HAD STATURE OVER THE MUTILATED EUNUCH

The mutilated Eunuch was designated as one diseased, and the natural Eunuch was designated as one not diseased.

 

The law (D 28.2.6) says that someone who cannot easily procreate is nonetheless entitled to institute a posthumous heir, but it gives no concrete examples of such a man.

In the same context, it states that the "eunuch" holds this right as well, while "castrated men" expressly do not.

Ulpian makes a distinction between the non castrated Eunuch and the castrated Eunuch.

NATURAL EUNUCHS COULD MARRY AND ADOPT CHILDREN

Whole eunuchs who were freemen, unlike mutilated eunuchs, were eligible for marriage and for adopting children (D 23.3.39.1, 28.2.6).

 In fact, anatomically whole eunuchs had all the rights and duties of ordinary men.


NATURAL EUNUCHS ARE WHAT WE REFER TO TODAY AS GAYS


The point of all this is that ancient law differentiated between natural Eunuchs  and mutilated Eunuchs.

Natural Eunuchs were homosexual men of that time and had all rights and duties of ordinary men.
 


ANCIENT CHRISTIANS AND CLEMENT OF ALEXANDRIA


Clement of Alexandria warned Christians against the evils of eunuch servants being placed in charge of women, because they will act as pimps for the women, and moreover, "the true eunuch is not unable, but [merely?] unwilling to have sex."

NOTE CLEMENTS STATEMENT. THE NATURAL EUNUCH IS NOT UNABLE TO HAVE SEX

It is important to see that this Catholic Saint makes it abundantly clear that the true eunuch is one who is capable of sexual activity.

In other words, the true eunuch is not a castrated male.

The true natural Eunuch is not one who is born without genitals .

THAT PERSON WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ENGAGE IN SEX

WITH A WOMAN

This is very important to remember when considering the words of Jesus.


THE WORDS OF JOSEPHUS


Josephus, in Jewish Antiquities IV 8,40, indicated that in the case of some, since "it is evident that their soul has become effeminate, they have transfused that effeminacy to their body also.
"

Here Josephus is saying that the persons soul is effeminate.

THE FEMININE ASPECT OF THE PERSON IS WITHIN THEM

AND REFLECTED IN THEIR BODILY ACTIONS

In other words it is within them, their very spirit or identity which thus is also reflected in their body.
 


THE MOST FAMOUS JEWISH HISTORIAN PLINY THE ELDER


Pliny the Elder assigned eunuchs and hermaphrodites to the "third gender called half-male,"


THE QUR'AN


Although the Qur'an never uses the word khasy, it recognizes that not all persons are male or female and  that there are some people who are aqim, or "ineffectual,"109  and some men who "lack the primary skills of males.
 


SUETONIUS ABOUT THE EMPEROR TITUS

                                    


Suetonius said of the emperor Titus that "he was suspected of excess; and likewise of lust because of his crowds of catamites and eunuchs."91

ABOVE: THE CATAMITE WAS ONE WHO ENGAGED SEXUALLY

WITH BOYS. NOTICE THAT SUETONIUS SUGGESTS EUNUCHS WERE ALSO AROUND TITUS.

Apuleius,  tells of a band of "half-men" [semiviri], 1 who call each other "girls" [puellae] and have sex with young men, both as active and as passive partners.2 

They also act as cultic priests of the Mother Goddess, a traditional role for eunuchs.3  

IT IS QUITE COMMON WITHIN THE GAY CULTURE TODAY

TO HEAR HOMOSEXUAL MEN REFER TO EACH OTHER AS "GIRL"


 

WHAT DOES JESUS SAY ABOUT NATURAL EUNUCHS

JESUS ACTUALLY SPOKE OF THREE TYPES OF EUNUCHS


Now what does Jesus say about those natural Eunuchs and about mutilated Eunuchs.

Keeping in mind that the natural Eunuchs were the gays or homosexuals of the time.
 

KJV Matthew 19:12
12.  For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

 

JESUS TALKS OF EUNUCHS BORN FROM THEIR MOTHERS WOMB

Jesus mentions the natural Eunuchs (the true Eunuchs-the homosexuals), born from their mothers womb,

MADE THAT WAY BY MEN

He also mentions the mutilated eunuchs (made by men), These are the castrated Eunuchs.

MAKE THEMSELVES THAT WAY FOR THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN

He also mentions those who simply abandon sex for the sake of spirituality. (Made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heavens sake.

JESUS KNEW THAT NOT EVERYONE WOULD LIKE WHAT HE SAID

As you can see in his statement above, Jesus also was not getting a 100% response.

 Notice the comment about, he that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

Some obviously could not.

But Jesus said, that's the way it is.

How about you, can you receive it?

ROMAN LAW AT JESUS TIME DESCRIBED NATURAL EUNUCHS

AS WE WOULD GAYS TODAY.

AND JESUS CONFIRMED THAT THEY ARE BORN THAT WAY

 


HERE IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO

CHOOSE WHOM TO ACCEPT

 THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH    

OR JESUS CHRIST

 

THERE IS OBVIOUSLY A BIG DIFFERENCE


You can be anti Gay if you wish.

That is your right.

YOU CAN'T BE ANTI GAY AND PRO JESUS

 However, you cannot be anti gay and claim to be a follower of Jesus Christ.

As you can see. He did not feel that way.

So if you feel that way you are out of step with Jesus.

Take your choice, follow Jesus or follow the church.

DISAPPROVAL OF THE GAY LIFESTYLE

You certainly have a right to disapprove of the Gay life style.

But when you approach it from a Christian standpoint you are on shaky ground.

CHRISTIANS SAY THAT WHAT IS IN THE WOMB IS A CREATION OF GOD

JESUS SAYS NATURAL EUNUCHS (TODAYS GAYS)

ARE BORN THAT WAY FROM THEIR MOTHERS WOMB


If Jesus says that some are born that way from their mothers womb

And if you say that those within the womb are creations of God

That means that those whom you may not approve of are creations of God. 

So tell him .
 

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