TRANSLATE THIS PAGE INTO ANY LANGUAGE

PROVING THE

EXISTENCE OF GOD

FAITH

When we speak of the nature of God. One thing we all must admit.

We are in every case forced to rely upon something called faith.

 I have attended services of all kinds, I have attended meetings, seen television programs. But in every case where God is concerned, the bottom line is faith.

No one, absolutely no one, in two thousand years of western recorded religion, has proved one thing.

 God loves you. God expects this or that, and this or that is going to happen.

 Again. no one has proof of anything.

THE NEW AGE

Then we try New Age.

That is more peaceful I admit. It is more nature centered, I admit.

But I then find a problem.

 New Age people have a thing for writing paragraph after paragraph of ramblings about spiritual entities, light, comets, and beings, and wind up leaving you in the same place as the original people.

There is no proof.

 They all reach the same conclusion.

Maybe all of this stuff is right, maybe its wrong, but in any case I can't do anything about it so I will go through the motions and whatever will be will be.

HIDDEN MEANINGS

But here at Hidden Meanings,  we began to look again at the Bible, we looked at Buddha, we looked at Krishna and the Bhagavad Gita.

We studied Allah of the Muslims with Ahmed Hulusi.

 And though there was a lot of interesting stuff, we were still left to go home and think, maybe I learned about how other people believe. But there is no proof. Nobody can prove God exists, nobody can prove Jesus ever existed. No body can prove that one thing in the Bible ever happened.

But you get in trouble if you question it so nobody says anything.

 Its our faith.

 Even the politicians are arguing about it now.

 Something that nobody knows even exists and its a big deal in politics.

FOLLOW NOBODY

My revolution in this life was based on my need not to follow other people unless they could substantiate what they were telling me.

 Don't tell me something is very important if you cannot prove what your saying.

 At least give me a neutral source to back up what you say. I don't want you to refer me to religious books to back up your religious claims.

I don't want you to refer me to New Age books or people to agree with your New Age claims.

If your claims are true then you should be able to back them up using Neutral Sources who are not religious or new age.

Either it is or it isn't.

Unfortunately in our culture many people believe what is, is what they wish it to be.

PHYSICAL PROOF

So we start from a premise that there are physical animals and there is a planet earth.

 We can prove that because there you are, here I am and we have cats and dogs.

We proved that.

That was pretty easy. There are physical animals and there is the planet earth.

THERE ARE STARS AND PLANETS

Now the next thing we have to do in our search to prove God etc, is prove that there is a universe for this planet earth and us to fly around on.

We can see the sun, we can see the moon, we can see the constellations, and other planets, so there is no doubt about it.

There is a planet earth, there is physical life walking around the earth and there is a universe.

We have proved that.

GOD ---- ANGELS

Now things start to get tacky.

 God, angels, devils, UFO’s, aliens.

 Now we start to tred in areas where there is absolutely no physical proof of any kind.

 Nothing.

People say they saw this or that, but cannot prove a thing.

So now we have to back off a bit don't we? 

Because our proof is going to have to be more circumstantial then physical.

What I mean by that is suggesting that something that was part of a culture or written by someone thousands of years ago actually refers to something that can be proven by the things that exist on the earth today or in the cosmos.

WHERE IS

THE EVIDENCE ?

Because all we have for proof is the existence of the earth, and physical life, and the universe.

We have to begin to examine things under a microscope.

We have to spread out a jig saw puzzle and see if things fit. It takes a lot of effort. But our goal is to develop proof for what is.

Nothing anyone ever said in the past matters unless there is proof to support what they say.

So whatever I say is simply an opinion until there is proof.

And if it is just an opinion your no better off there then in any other church or new age place.

 More ramblings on with no proof of anything.

DO SCRIPTURES MEAN ANYTHING ?

So we take all of the old texts of the Bible, Krishna, Buddha, Mohammed etc and say, is any of this stuff relevant to anything?

 Is there anything in it that can be proven?

The answer is absolutely no.

 It is subject to interpretation.

Whatever the reader thinks it means is what it means to that reader, but it does not prove anything.

But you can't simply discount those texts because nothing has been proven up to now.

 You have to rethink how you are using the text and say, well maybe it means something that can be proven.

Let me give you an example of a Biblical text that says that you can prove spiritual things by looking at other things that are physical

Romans1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse

So there is a religious document that says that the invisible things of God can be understood by looking at physical things.

Is this true ? Can we prove this ?.

Well no one ever has, but none the less. Its worth a shot.

AND SCIENCE

But since we need some guidance , and since no one on the earth has proven anything about God etc. Where do we go for guidance.?

We obviously have to take from things written by others whose credentials can be proved by matching what they say with things that we can see now. In other words, we will follow the Bible and see if we can prove things by finding physical things to back up ancient words.

That's ok but we live in a sophisticated society of computers, and atomic energy, so how can we listen to people who wrote when there was no electric lights, no cars, no computers, no planes.

 How could they possibly tell us anything ,and if they do , why should we even consider what they say?

WOMEN MADE OF

SPARE RIBS ?

There's a story of God (whatever that is) removing a rib from Adam.

I certainly can not prove that.

Unless the words mean something else. If this is a kind of mythology in which the words mean something else then maybe we can do something with it.

After all the Bible says God speaks in parables, it says that wisdom is understanding the words of the wise and their dark sayings. It says the Old Testament is allegorical and it says you should not be a minister of the letter.

So indeed let's try it and not take all of this stuff literally and see what happens.

See if we can prove anything.

God takes a rib out of Adam.

Lets say Adam is Atom.

Ok God takes something out of an atom and uses it to make something called Eve , a female.

You know what?

We got somewhere.

Because, I can prove that.

Here we take an atom.

Remove an electron and make a positive ion.

 Then we place that electron in another atom and make a negative ion.

We have created positive and negative, male and female.

We have proof that if not taken literally, the fact in the Bible was correct.

And something else. Whoever wrote that knew of nuclear fission, ionic exchange long before their time.

So we can prove that removing an electron from one atom and placing it in another causes the result that the Bible speaks of.

Thus since we have looked at physical things and saw how they work, and connected them to spiritual or Biblical things we have then followed the Biblical instructions for finding proof haven't we?

Romans1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse

We understand the Biblical thing by proving it as a scientific thing, and it makes us also consider the intelligence of the writer as one who was very advanced.

LETS TRY THE SPEED OF LIGHT

 In Numbers 2:9 it says that Judah had 186,400 people in its camp.

Judah is referred to in the Bible as the people of light.

186,400 is the constant speed of light.

What have we proved.

We have proved that in speaking of light, the Bible may very well have been speaking of cosmic or interstellar light because the interstellar speed is specified. Of course it could be a coincidence.

But since light and 186,400 are so specific I think we should give the benefit of the doubt.

And again.

The writer was someone who evidently knew the speed of light.

THE TEMPLE ON YOUR SHOULDERS

One more.

The scripture says:

God lives in a temple not made with hands. Seems to indicate a head.

 The Biblical temple has an outer room, and inner holy of holies, and the two are separated by a curtain or veil.

The human head has an outer covering of the brain called dura mater, the inner most sensitive is called pia mater,  and the two are separated by arachnoid which is the web or veil or curtain.

So we have an anatomically correct description of a human brain written thousands of years ago in the Bible.

 By not taking it literally, we have proven it correct.

 And what about the writer?

How did the writer know of this so many thousands of years ago ?

WHO WROTE

ALL THIS STUFF ??

So it seems we have followed a pattern of considering ancient writers as being an advanced race, and their statements showing links between the physical and the astronomical as being scientifically correct.

If an advanced race was writing this material and they spoke of cosmic events, they would obviously know what they are talking about, I would think.

Someone who spoke of nuclear fission, the speed of light, the construction of the human brain, thousands of years ago, would seem to be beings that should be listened to.

THE FLYING HORSE

AND THE HUMAN HEAD

When they spoke of a special happening in Revelation it was connected with the white horse in the sky.

 We found it to mean Pegasus and then found circumstantial proof as the first planet orbiting its own star was found in Pegasus, and then taking it a step further we found that Pegasus in the sky was the same as the Hippocampus of the brain which is our memory.

 We were proving there that someone identified Pegasus with the goddess of memory. And then someone named the organ of the brain responsible for memory as a white sea horse, hippocampus.

So there is a hippocampus, there is a Pegasus and they are both connected to memory .

 Thus by looking at the physical we proved the Spiritual.

VERDICT

I feel that we have accumulated enough circumstantial evidence in comparing contemporary science with ancient texts to conclude that without a doubt a supreme mind (we call God) exists.